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Part 2: Dion's Plan: are all Liberals 'tous ensemble' on our running more women?

On Friday I wrote about a backlash against Stephane Dion's plan to run more women in the next federal election by some questionable characters. Joan Bryden's CP story was picked up by some of the print media and it opened the door to some dissent. Questions were raised by some Liberal bloggers who seemed to be having trouble with Stephane Dion's plan, even though any perceived 'in fighting' does not bode well for the next election. Nevertheless, these things can happen and can still be of no consequence if they live for a few days and then go away.

At first, I thought this might have to do with Stephane Dion reserving the right to appoint, where necessary. Then, I thought this might have to do with some ambitious Liberal men who might find themselves being passed up right now for nominations, thus making Stephane Dion's July 2006 promise to run women in 33% of ridings in the next federal election a bitter reality. After that, I started to see some dissent from Liberal men whose time has not yet come where they could run, but who feel threatened that Dion's follow up to his promise might thwart their political ambitions in the future.

What does Michael Ignatieff think? I would like to know because he, like all the leadership candidates, made a policy. Michael's promise described here was to run 25% women candidates and the next election and 35% women in ridings where there is no incumbent or where the incumbent is not seeking re-election. So, Mr. Ignatieff had committed to running slightly fewer women than Dion, but he still set firm quotas nevertheless.

Unfortunately, I am starting to see a pattern on the part of former Michael Ignatieff supporters from Stephane Dion's home province. For example, after multiple subtle shots at Dion's current challenge to run women in 33% of federal ridings, Antonio at Fuddle Duddle makes public on Liblogs this conservative blog by 'blogging tories' Chuckercanuk complaining about this same issue (for a CPC audience).

Does this overt promotion of dissent elsewhere stop with Antonio or does this also represent the attitudes of other former Ignatieff organisers? What about their elected mentors? Do Mr. Rodriquez and M. Coderre quietly support this type of seeming dissent by Antonio because of their own private ambitions? Are they in 'love' still with and would prefer as leader Mr. Ignatieff? Does a failed Dion attempt to govern make Michael the 'heir apparent' and is this what these mega organisers would prefer for next time?

Before going too much further down the road towards an election (which will mean allot of hard work), I would like to know who I can count on and who I cannot. Where does the dissent start and where does it end?

So, in the spirit of leadership, I think it is essential that Michael Ignatieff make a statement in support of M. Dion's plan for women in the next election to show we are really 'tous ensemble'.

Thanks Antonio. The last thing we really need is another albatross within the Liberal party because your nose is 'out of joint' still. We are either 'tous ensemble' or not. To mitigate the damage the onus is now on your 'idol'. There have been rivalries in the Liberal party for too long and it is very important that we promptly 'nip this one in the bud'

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a) That's exactly what's going on and b) Ignatieff's plan was to do nothing for women, since we ran 25%candidates in the last election.

These boys don't want to let go of the old rules because they favoured them and their style of backroom politics, yes that also means Coderre et al.

These are just new rules, which I argue are actually more fair and open and democratic than the old boys network way of nominating candidates.

At least all the cards are on the table, and at 59% female support still not enough.

Anonymous said...

It'd make my day if someone put Antonio in his place.

I'm tired of his whining. His candidate, like many Liberals, didn't win - deal with it.

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Look.

It is not about the quota per say.

It is that the campaign organizers (especially in this province) are being put under extreme stress and are in such a desperate mode to find women that they are willing to parachute in and choose former woman NDP/Green failed candidates over loyal lifelong liberals....all for the sake of equality

Furthermore, these women are being asked, for the most part, to be sacrificial lambs as they are being placed in non-winnable ridings.

Sinestra said...

Interesting comment. I know of one riding where the president is opposed to a local high profile Liberal woman running, but might be okay with the CPC candidate from 06. I can assure you that it won't happen.

S.K. said...

Yeah all these stories of we just don't have enough interested women I find a little dubious personally. I call bullshit on that one. You don't neeed to live in you riding. Martin didn't. Dion doesn't.

There are lots of interested women. Riding associations that want to discourage wome justneed a kick in the ass, which is what this is all about.

Don't worry anonymous we are fighting for women to be nominated in winnable ridings as well not just lost causes.

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Anonymous said...

Yeah all these stories of we just don't have enough interested women I find a little dubious personally

Sorry, there is absolutely no incentive for me to lie about this.

Maybe it is just limited to this province.

I can name at least three specific circumstances in three ridings where we are aggressively courting past failed NDP/Green/Conservative female candidates because no Liberal woman wants to run and/or we can’t find any within our own party.

Edgewater Views said...

Antonimous:

This policy is not about running 'warm bodies', which seems to be how this is being spun. It is not!

There are Liberal women who match or exceed Liberal men in their qualifications/winnability. They should be given a chance. This is about meritorious practices within a specific pool of Liberals who need a shot, finally. Once things are balanced in the House, this will only be about merit.

Nevertheless, I do know more than one riding held by men on the Island where I could run my dog as a Liberal, and he would win.

This bitter infighing should stop because Mr. Ignatieff is either going to have to account or belly up to his inspiring 'tous ensemble' message.

This 'mini-crisis' continued also by reckless blogging is the first challenge to our showing Canadians we are united after convention. And, I trust it will be handled with dignity.

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Sorry Edgewater, but you need to understand the reality on the ground and not what is coming out of Ottawa.

I agree there are plenty of qualified women and given more time, we could probably convince them to run and get them into "safe" Liberal ridings.

However

1) Incumbents are protected, which eliminates a majority of safe ridings for woman to run in. (This is Dion's doing)

2) The national campaign has handed out a deadline of just 30-40 days for provincial co-chairs to get a list of women compiled and ready to be parachuted immediately. That is some damn major pressure to perform.

3) Because of this time pressure, quality and due diligence is being sacrificed for expediency and election readiness. As a result, this gives off the impression that all we are after are warm bodies (Why else would we be looking at other parties past candidates?)

Perhaps what I’m trying to say is that the plan may be sound, but implementation and execution at this point has been done very poorly, further compounded by the fact that the party wants to be ready to fight asap. Perhaps if the budget passes and things cool down, the party will have time to do this properly.

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Interesting hypothesis about Ignatieff organizers. I have met a few of them and they seemed content with the change a-coming... I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt.

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Events included a procession from the 15th Street building to the Chambers Street one; a meeting of the National Consortium for Specialized Secondary Schools of Mathematics, Science and Technology; an all-class reunion; and visits and speeches from notable alumni. In recent years, keynote graduation speakers have included future Attorney General Eric Holder


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While praising the Occupy movement’s goal of helping the 99 percent, Rose Ann DeMoro, executive director of the California Nurses Association, faulted the protesters’ tactics, saying, “I don’t know how you call a strike without involving the union or the workers.”

But the Occupy activists said unions were too timid about pushing the interests of workers.
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Many Aggies again served in the military during World War II, with the college producing 20,229 combat troops. Of those, 14,123 Aggies served as officers, more than any other school and more than the combined total of the United States Naval Academy and the United States Military Academy.[24] During the war, 29 A&M graduates reached the rank of general.

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The Texas A&M culture is a product of the university's founding as a rural military and agricultural school. Although the school and surrounding community have grown, and military training is no longer required, the school's history has instilled in students "the idealized elements of a small-town life: community, tradition, loyalty, optimism, and unabashed sentimentality."[

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